History Inclusionism
History Inclusionist is a specific discourse-adjacent label, made to cater to a specific variety of inclusivity about personal identity.In regards to online LGBT discourse, there are many definitions for the word "inclusionist." It can be difficult to tell what someone online means when they label as an "inclusionist".Because of the current nature of online discourse, History inclusionist is meant to be a more clearly defined word, with a specific coining and a set in place list of what that means. The hope is to allow people to quickly state their "stances" and find each others who feel the same.
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What's Included? What's Not?
Overall:
"History Inclusionism" refers to being inclusive of personal identities based on the identity being:
A self affirmed personal identity (locatable only within a person's interaction with and relations to the world around you)
Historically shown to be included in an identity subculture (Such as in a notable number of personal accounts, poems, zines, books, or other media from a subculture)
Shown to be non harmful to other identities or persons (Such as in more than one professional study)
Examples:
- Different studies over human history have concluded that being raised by gay parents doesn't cause inherent harm to children. Therefore, gay relationships are provably shown to be non harmful. They are included here.
- Different self-reports, comics, zines, and other writings from the past 60 years mention male lesbians, bi lesbians, and lesbians in relationships with men. Therefore, it is historically shown to be included in lesbian culture, and is included here.
- Studies, reports, and other examinations by professionals over the course of human history have come to the conclusion that minors in relationships with adults cannot consent and are harmed by those "relationships." Therefore, personal identities that try to justify these "relationships" are not included here.
"Personal Identity"?
"Personal Identity" is a purposefully broad term meant to apply to most self-affirmed forms of identification (plurality status, orientation, gender, etc). (Please see the FAQ for more detailed explanations of this, of the sections below, and sources to justify why each bullet point is there!)
Being a History Inclusionist means that you are in complete support of the following:
Plurality which does not attribute its origins to trauma
Lesbians who are also male / Gay men who are also female
Lesbians who are also mspec (bi, pan, poly, etc) / Gay men who are also mspec
Transgender / nonbinary people who don't experience dysphoria or only feel euphoria
Nonbinary genders, including xenogenders / nonbinary genders that are "atypical" (based on fictional characters, highly specific, based on animals, etc)
"Atypical" relationship formats such as polyamorous relationships, relationship anarchy, kink-focused relationships, etc (Or generally any other form of relationship between two or more consenting people that would not fall under anything on the list below this)
Gender presentations which conflict with and/or defy the expected norm (Women who use he/him pronouns, men who present feminine, etc)
Being a History Inclusionist means that you absolutely do not tolerate or support the following:
Acting on or encouraging attraction to children as an adult (Pedophilia)
Acting on, encouraging attraction to, or associating positive feelings with the attraction to one's family members (Incest)
Acting on or encouraging attraction to, or associating positive feelings with the attraction to animals (Zoophilia)
Arguing with other members of the LGBT community over who is allowed to use derogatory words (Q-eer, f-ggot, d-ke, and so on)
TransID/TransX communities, the idea that someone can transition into or identify as an age, disorder, or condition they physically are not or do not have (transrace/diarace/trace, transabled/transdisorder/'transplural'/transautistic, and so on)
Links And Questions You May Have:
"What does a
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(Full / More Detailed list)
Just so everything is fully clear, here is an expanded version of the previous list. (Message me on Tumblr if you have genuine questions about if XYZ would be included / excluded on this list!)
Non-traumagenic systems / Endogenic systems / Tulpamancy
Lesboys / Turiagirls / Lesbians who are also men, or aren't women at all / Gay men who are also women, or aren't men at all
Lesbians who also identify as mspec orientation/s (bi/pan/ply/omni/mspec/any other mspec label)
Gay men who also identify as mspec orientation/s (bi/pan/ply/omni/mspec/any other mspec label)
Every LGBT person having the right to define which words and gendered terms they want applied to them [including bisexuals / other orientations reclaiming the word d-yke, asexuals/aspec orientations reclaiming q-eer, and so on]
Recognition that bigots do not exactly care WHO they call slurs / Slur reclamation being a personal, self-determined thing / It not being clear-cut who can reclaim what slur, and abandonment of "slur discourse"
Neopronouns, nounself pronouns, emojiself pronouns, and other atypical pronouns
Xenogenders, neogenders, neurogenders, microlabels, and generally very specific or abstract gender labels
Transgender / nonbinary people who don't experience dysphoria or only feel euphoria
Gender non-conforming people; people who dress/use pronouns/use gendered terms not typically associated with their gender [Men who use she/her pronouns and call themselves women, lesbians who use he/him or call themselves men, and so on]
"Atypical" relationship formats: Polyamorous relationships, relationship anarchy, kink-focused relationships; Or generally any other form of relationship between two or more consenting people that would not involve pedophilia or other predatory behavior
"What does a
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Defining lesbian as "woman loving women and non-men" / "loving everyone but men", lesbian separatism, the idea that people who are male cannot be lesbians or that lesbians cannot be also attracted to genders other than women
The idea that pride flags [and their stripe patterns/colors] can be appropriated, the concept that the blue-green gay man flag [commonly called the toothpaste or Listerine flag] is appropriative of lesbians, the concept that the most common pansexual or aroace flags shouldn't be used because the creators support mspec lesbians
In-fighting with other LGBT people on who can reclaim which slurs, or any other form of slur discourse at all
Habits / actions that usually get defined as "proship" online [shipping fictional adults with minors, creating fanworks involving characters engaging in rape/incest/pedophilia/zoophilia and finding positive feelings/enjoyment in that content] (Other possible labels which also fall here: Comship/comcan/profiction/anti-anti/doveship/"dead dove don't eat"/"ship and let ship"/kodocon/lolicon/AAM/MAP)
General principles of a History Inclusionist
Speaking broadly, a History Inclusionist supports:1: Anyone who has a Personal Identity which is in good faith and "atypical"†.
2. Any good faith identity which has been historically shown to not be a problem, and is only a source of online debate due to a lack of awareness about what the identity actually means and/or how long it has been casually accepted.
3: Any good faith identity which has been historically shown to not harm any other identity or persons.†Atypical = it is largely not commonly accepted by society. Lesbian, gay, bisexual, asexual, aromantic and transgender people; polyamorous people, all forms of systems no matter how they label their origins, lesbians and gay men who eschew traditional gender norms - and so on. Despite these groups being common, they are not commonly accepted all over the world.Good faith, here, means that the identity is being labeled because it makes the person using it comfortable. Not to harm others by deceiving them. LGBT people and systems are not intending to deceive others and simply want to live as they are.Examples in use:
- Someone who identifies as a MAP (Minor Attracted Person) and creates "pride flags" to describe how they wish to maintain relationships with children is not identifying in good faith. It has been proven many times that children in relationships with adults are victims of pedophilia who are traumatized by the experience. Therefore, a MAP is infringing upon the rights and safety of others, which cannot be in good faith.
- Someone who identifies as both bisexual and a lesbian because they would like to represent their very rare but still existent attraction to men is not infringing upon the rights of others - They are only describing their own attraction. [Online, it may be claimed that bisexual lesbians make predatory cishet men think that they have a right to pursue ALL lesbians. However, that is not the fault of the bisexual lesbian as they are only defining their own attraction. Their own attraction did not cause the predatory cishet men to exist.
Additionally, there are many sources [documentaries/old zines/community commentary/etc] that support the concept of lesbians loving more than women, which implies that the online hatred towards mspec lesbians is a result of misinformation instead of the label ever having a definition that excludes mspec lesbians.]
"What is 'Personal Identity'?"
In this Carrd and in the context of being an H-Inclus, "Personal Identity" refers to different types of identity about personhood that someone might have, which are wholly self-determined and locatable only within that person's interaction with and relations to the world around them.
For example, a bisexual lesbian's identity is not saying that all lesbians are bisexual or that they should identify that way; It is saying that that individual determined themself to be bisexual and lesbian.
Personal Identity is something important to your identity that can't be argued about by others, because of the mere fact that it's self-determined. No one else can decide which orientation/gender/plurality/etc words feel best to you. Therefore, these are self-determined. Each person knows themself best, and the way they determine the words they'd like to use for themself doesn't affect other people inherently.
"Why Is XYZ Included?"
(Click on each entry to visit the subpage for it.)
Non-traumagenic plurality
Male lesbians / Female gay men
Mspec lesbians / gays
Non-dysphoric transgender people
Xenogenders
Kink, polyamory and other relationships
Gender non-conformity
"Why Coin This?"
The LGBT/MOGAI community has created tons of labels for inclusion. There's nothing wrong with creating new labels, but "inclusion" is a word that is often twisted.
Exclusionists sometimes claim that everyone who uses the word "radical inclusionist" also advocates for pedophilia and incest! Inclusionists sometimes claim that xenogenders or mspec gays are actually not included in radical exclusion. There have also been other labels (such as radqueer) which intend to present as being inclusive, but advocate for potentially dangerous things like pedophilia.
A lot of these inclusion-related words are vague (which isn't anyone's fault), but it presents an issue that bigots and predators can use them as a cover. So, History Inclusionist is an inclusionist label that has a very specific definition. This hopes to prevent discourse and unsourced claims about what someone who labels as a History Inclusionist supports.Additionally, I hope to make it easier for someone who wants to label as a History Inclusionist to explain what that means. A History Inclusionist could even simply link to this Carrd on their DNI page and state something like "do not interact with me if you disagree with these principles."
"I have criticism/concerns about something included/excluded here!"
You can contact me [coiner of this term] on Tumblr if you have questions not covered here. Please provide sources for all claims. [Examples of sources: Clinical studies, books on the subject, old Zines/writing on LGBT matters, etc. Not valid sources: Tweets, Tumblr posts, Carrds]I will do my absolute best to hear out people who do not agree with me, but it has to be understood that it needs to be a conversation where both parties are actually wanting to listen to each other. I will not tolerate you spamming me with "endos aren't valid lol" and expecting me to respond somehow.Sui baiting/spam/etc is blocked and sent to Tumblr's contact for reporting harassment.TD;LR - Have a conversation with me, don't spit discourse buzzwords at me. Anyone may contact me with genuine concerns. Please provide reputable sources for any claims. I will do my best to hear you out.
"What symbols / flags / terms can I use if I want to call myself a History Inclusionist?"
There is currently not an official flag for this term. I plan to design one later and am currently not accepting ideas.
Here are some shorthands you may like to use (in your Tumblr/Twitter bio, etc):
HInclus / H. Inclus
Historical Inclus(ionist) / History Inclusionist
The combination of the 🏳️🌈 (LGBT Flag) and 📖 (Open Book) emojis. 🏳️🌈📖 or 📖🏳️🌈 are both fine and both mean the same thing, no matter the order.
Since History Inclusionist is a brand new term, it is unlikely people online will recognize it. I suggest linking to this Carrd somewhere.
Sourcing
I consider the following to be valid sources:
Archived zines, poems, diaries or other media from community members that is over 7 years old
Concluded studies conducted by professionals
Official diagnostic manuals
Therefore, all pages of this Carrd will follow these guidelines. (I may also include links to non-sources such as personal Tumblr posts, Carrds etc, but these are included as Further Reading and not sources, because I don't consider these types of links to count as valid sources.)
Credits And Acknowledgments
The phrasing "locatable only within your interaction with and relations to the world around you" came from this Tumblr post by txttletale. This term and the author have no affiliation with them, I just thought it was a wonderful way to phrase this concept.
"Why Is XYZ NOT Included?"
(Click on each entry to visit the subpage for it.)
Pedophilia/Incest
Zoophilia
"Slur discourse"
TransX and TransID (Transrace/diarace/trace, transabled/transdisorder/transplural/transautistic)
"If a History Inclusionist is against proship communities and Minor Attracted People: Would a History Inclusionist not support people with POCD?"
That is not the case. They would support that person in general, because a person with POCD is not a pedophile.POCD (OCD with obsessions/compulsions about worrying one is a pedophile) does not involve actual attraction to children. A person with POCD is afraid they are attracted to children, to the extent that they will spend time doing things like preventing themself from being around children, hating themself for having these thoughts, or other actions that are harmful to themself. A person with POCD does not advocate for people to have relationships with children as an adult - They are so afraid of it that it is disruptive to their life. In general, a History Inclusionist supports anyone who is not harming others via their identity, and a person with POCD simply existing doesn't harm anyone.
POCD =/= attraction to children. Obsessions, compulsions, and intrusive thoughts do not equal actions or a "secret desire".However, if a person with POCD chooses coping mechanisms which can and do harm other people, they can fall into criteria that a History Inclusionist would not support. If they were making the active decision to create pride flags to celebrate this attraction, make blogs/icons/edits/etc to imagine that fictional minors are in relationships with fictional adults, trying to justify the actions of people who DID attempt relationships with minors, and so on - these ACTIONS are what a History Inclusionist is against.
POCD is difficult to cope with, and POCD sufferers are valid people who deserve respect. It just has to be considered that there are healthier ways to deal with these conditions than others, and some ways may be discouraging receiving help with their problems and potentially encouraging others with similar problems to start having positive associations with pedophilia; and this sort of normalization is not okay and is not what a History Inclusionist is here for.The same would apply to someone who has similar obsessions/compulsions/intrusive thoughts about incest, zoophilia, rape, or other similar things.
"Would a History Inclusionist support 'transplural' people?"
No. No one who is openly accepting of radqueer | transX | transID terminology is a History Inclusionist, because it is shown that these identities harm others.A History Inclusionist does support endogenic systems.
Endogenic systems are not 'transplural'. (In general) Endogenics do not exist because they chose to co-opt terminology associated with being transgender.
Additionally, if someone is choosing to identify as an endogenic plural, they are not transitioning into anything. They are plural. There is nothing to transition into, therefore making no need for the usage of "transplural" type terminology completely unnecessary. If someone who has discovered they're an endogenic plural makes the choice to use 'transplural,' I really just see this as a mistake. That is them choosing a label that infringes upon the rights of others (co-opting trans language, aligning with transage | transracial / etc people, etc.)
Labeling as transplural is not good faith because it hurts others, and being endogenic =/= transplural.(Further reading: this subpage about transID.)
Why include mspec lesbians or lesbians who are men?
This page attempts to "justify" why a History Inclusionist supports mspec lesbians and/or lesbian men wholeheartedly and debunk a few common discourse claims. You may want to use this page as reference instead of sending messages to mspec lesbians or History Inclusionists to learn about mspec lesbians and lesboys.
The Definition of Lesbian has NEVER Been "Woman-Loving-Nonmen":
The above definition is very popular among exclusionists (in my experience), however... Historically, I genuinely cannot find a single example of this definition being used outside of exclusionism.
The following is over 20 examples of other definitions of lesbian. I would also like to point out how old most of these are, and the fact that (in my experience) most exclusionists of mspec lesbians/gays are young teenagers†.
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Defining Lesbian as "Woman-Loving-Nonmen" IS Mspec, Anyway
"Nonman" cannot logically mean any other than "someone who is not a man".There are more than two genders which are not male.Therefore, if you claim that lesbian means "woman-loving-nonmen," you are defining lesbian as mspec.
If you think this definition is not mspec, you are then saying that many people who are not comfortable with being called "nonmen" should be swept under the label of "nonman", which is potentially misgendering them.Personal note: Am unsure why this definition became so popular among Twitter exclusionists. Makes me concerned about cognitive dissonance.
Excluding Mspec Lesbians Implies That Some Multigender/Nonbinary People Aren't Real Lesbians:
insert my rant about how i am bigender (agender + male), and i am bisexual (attracted to men and attracted to agender people), and i therefore consider myself gay for both my genders - why am i not allowed consider myself both bisexual and gay? i fit BOTH definitions, are you implying i'm being attracted wrong? why do you get to decide that?
Mspec Lesbians Were Historically Pushed Out of Lesbian Spaces by TERFs:
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Therefore, being anti mspec lesbian is TERF idealogy.
Mspec Lesbians Were Historically Pushed Out of Lesbian Spaces by TERFs:
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Therefore, being anti mspec lesbian is TERF idealogy.
Excluding Mspec Lesbians Is Xenophobic, Because Many Non-American Cultures / Non-English Languages Do Not Separate Mspec And Lesbian:
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Therefore, being anti mspec lesbian is TERF idealogy.
Off-Site Links:
(Additional reading on the subject - I am not considering these sources)
D-kes to Watch Out For
Why exclude transID/transX, transrace/trace/diarace, transage?
This page attempts to "justify" why a History Inclusionist is against transID/transX wholeheartedly and debunk a few common discourse claims. You may want to use this page as reference instead of sending messages to History Inclusionists.
Race is a social concept in a different way than gender that cannot be transitioned to:
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"Transage" has been used by pedophiles AND people who genuinely don't feel their age
Minors should not be in relationships with adults.If this were not harmful, organizations dedicated to helping survivors of minor/adult relationships would likely not exist. Here is a small list of such organizations:
The online "transage" community shares many similarities with pro-incest/consang/proship communities
A History Inclusionist has an unwavering stance against incest, pedophilia, and things that are associated with the "proship" community. However, one would be hard pressed to not find someone in popular transage communities who doesn't also display behavior that is in support of these behaviors. This is dangerous for many reasons.Examples:
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Engaging with fictional incest/pedophilia/etc is recognized as an unhealthy and dangerous coping mechanism.
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Off-Site Links:
(Additional reading on the subject - I am not considering these sources)
D-kes to Watch Out For
Why exclude incest and pedophilia?
This page attempts to "justify" why a History Inclusionist is against incest and pedophilia wholeheartedly and debunk a few common discourse claims. You may want to use this page as reference instead of sending messages to History Inclusionists.(Other possible labels which also fall here, and that History Inclusionists are against: Comship/comcan/profiction/anti-anti/doveship/"dead dove don't eat"/"ship and let ship"/kodocon/lolicon/AAM/MAP)Personal note: This may seem "obvious" but I personally HAVE encountered people who are open about their belief that incest, pedophilia or zoophilia in real life is not harmful at all. I figure it may be worth it to include this.
Incest is Harmful Even If It's Consensual:
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Pedophilia is Harmful:
Minors should not be in relationships with adults.If this were not harmful, organizations dedicated to helping survivors of minor/adult relationships would likely not exist. Here is a small list of such organizations:
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Primer: Even If It's Fictional, Pedophilia/Incest and Etc Contributes To Abuse
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Engaging with fictional incest/pedophilia/etc is recognized as an unhealthy and dangerous coping mechanism.
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Off-Site Links:
(Additional reading on the subject - I am not considering these sources)
D-kes to Watch Out For
Why include endogenic plurality and tulpamancy?
This page attempts to "justify" why a History Inclusionist supports endogenics wholeheartedly and debunk a few common discourse claims. You may want to use this page as reference instead of sending messages to endogenics or History Inclusionists to learn about endogenics and tulpamancy.
Primer: The actual definition of endogenic
While I was putting this page together, I realized that I was seeing a lot of sysmedicalists claim that endogenics are claiming to have a disorder without any trauma.
However, when I actually ask endogenics and view their posts, that's not the case. They're experiencing plurality without it being caused by trauma. Plurality is not the only symptom of DID, OSDD and other disorders.
Diagnostic Criteria
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Historically, Online Places for Plurality Have Accepted Endogenic Plurals With no Problem:
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Excluding Endogenics Is Xenophobic, Because Many Non-American Cultures / Non-English Languages Feature Endogenic Plurality as a Normal Feature of Life:
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Tulpamancy Is An Experience Many Tulpamancers Began By Accident. An Experience ANYONE Can Have Cannot Be Appropriated:
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Tibetian Tulpamancers Don't Find An Issue With American/Western Tulpamancy:
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Off-Site Links:
(Additional reading on the subject - I am not considering these sources)
D-kes to Watch Out For
Why include mspec lesbians or lesbians who are men?
This page attempts to "justify" why a History Inclusionist supports mspec lesbians and/or lesbian men wholeheartedly and debunk a few common discourse claims. You may want to use this page as reference instead of sending messages to mspec lesbians or History Inclusionists to learn about mspec lesbians and lesboys.
The Definition of Lesbian has NEVER Been "Woman-Loving-Nonmen":
The above definition is very popular among exclusionists (in my experience), however... Historically, I genuinely cannot find a single example of this definition being used outside of exclusionism.
The following is over 20 examples of other definitions of lesbian. I would also like to point out how old most of these are, and the fact that (in my experience) most exclusionists of mspec lesbians/gays are young teenagers†.
Off-Site Links:
(Additional reading on the subject - I am not considering these sources)
D-kes to Watch Out For
"Why Is XYZ Included?"
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exclusionists (so DON'T INTERACT if you are anti aro/ace, pan/omni/mspec gay or lesbian, nb gay or lesbian, mogai/microlabel/very specific gender or orientation words, reclaiming the q word, etc) or label yourself as tru/med, terf, or exclusionist
defend fictional or irl p//dophilia or inc//st, label as pro/comship/"anti-anti"/""profiction""/M.A.P
think you can use the labels transrace/transabled/transage in any good faith way [besides transracial adoptees using the word with its actual meaning], or support people using labels like these
claim it's helpful to fakeclaim any system for ANY reason (being endogenic, not sharing origin labels, number of fictives, etc)
defend or blog about harry potter or the dream smp/creators who've been in the dsmp
suicide baiters/people who tell anyone to kill themselves
you say "standard DNI criteria" (read why below)
you don't source stim GIFs (Pinterest is not a source, it is a website that takes images awayfrom their original sources - Google is a search engine to find things, it is not a source)
or if you welcome/defend anyone or anything above!
also: please don't follow from pornography/nsfw-focused blogs